Agassi admits use of crystal meth

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  •  11-03-2009, 2:36 PM 512035 in reply to 512022

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    Great analogy Dobey comparing Elvis to Agassi. I was thinking the same thing reading down page 4 then you write it. The comebacks, the sold out stadium performances, the flamboyant costumes, the high proile romances, the larger than life persona.We can only imagine the pressure and demands on Agassi, and to learn he needed to escape from reality by using recreational drugs on occasion should not be a shocker. This guy has been probably the biggest thing to ever hit tennis. Just imagine where tennis might be in America stature wise today if Agassi's father liked baseball or soccer and not tennis.

    For example, I was just covering the NYC Marathon on Sunday and a friend was there Jaime Harris of the Amsterdam News. He prefers boxing and the NBA and isn't really a major tennis fan, doesn't play at all, but he made mention of AA's book. I groaned a little but he immediately jumped to Agassi's defense, adding "...I love the guy." I found that fascinating evidence of how Agassi can connect and embrace a young black reporter from the Bronx NY like that, through how he was as a tennis champion. It's just a credit to the guy and an example of what a transcendingo force he has been for tennis. There are a lot of people who really love the guy out there, despite his flaws and it's a credit to the man himself.

    And even this book, while a lot of tennis people are not pleased with it, it is getting tremendous media attention and all of it is good for the sport. Cover of People magazine, when was the last time tennis got that?

    Tom: If Nadal ever tests positive that quote above will come back to haunt him. Don't know about you, but I believe he is incapable of lying like that.

    Red: Tennis is different, when you are getting destroyed in a singles match, or lose a tough one, or blow a big lead, it's easy to hate the sport in those moments :) But that wasn't totally true what AA said there, he often said how much he enjoyed the process and looking forward to improving his game.







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  •  11-04-2009, 1:57 PM 512188 in reply to 512035

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    Scoop,

     Here it is straight from "Open,"

    My name is Andre Agassi. My wife's name is Stefanie Graf. We have two children, a son and a daughter, five and three. We live in Las Vegas but currently reside in a suite at the Four Seasons Hotel in New York City, because I'm playing in the 2006 U.S. Open. My last U.S. Open. In fact my last tournament ever. I play tennis for a living, even though I hate tennis, hate it with a dark and secret passion, and always have.

     

  •  11-04-2009, 3:29 PM 512203 in reply to 512188

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    It's a little suspicious that Andre says he hated tennis only after hic career ended and the millions were safely tucked away. Some people seem to genetically or physically built with an ability to do one thing at a genious level. I can think of Michael Phelps in swimming with a body almost tailor made for his sport, Joe Louis in boxing, Tiger Woods in golf and Andre in tennis, Peyton Manning as a Quarterback. But even with that gift of genetics or physiology, without the bone crushing effort and study of the craft, the physical gifts are never enough. So if Andre truly hated tennis, could he have been in all that effort on the practice court and go through all the rigorous physical fitness to become what he became? I doubt it. He might have ended up like a Riddick Bowe, a guy blessed with enormous talent and size but unable to have a long career at the top of his sport. Andre's very long and storied career is not the career of a guy who didn't like what he did. If Andre truly hated his sport, he would become the tennis version of Todd Marinovich. For those who don't remember him, he was a kid forcefed football by his domineering father from the time he was 2 years old. Marinovich eventually cracked (no pun intended) and he has dissapeared off the map.  
  •  11-04-2009, 4:42 PM 512211 in reply to 512188

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    It's tough for me to fully understand that comment without seeing it in context - without reading the entire book. He may go on to say or suggest he has a love-hate relationship with tennis, which would not surprise me. Based on that quote, he's saying that in 2006 using the present voice, but we're in 2009 now so you have to think he either explains that feeling throughout the book or qualifies that comment at some point.

    Seles, near the end of her career, once told me that her favorite thing was just hitting the ball. That she was much happier just going out and rallying - just hitting - than she was actually playing matches and tournaments. Now, she did NOT say "I hate tenis." She was saying clearly though, as you said here about him liking to hit a clean ball, that she much preferred that pure feeling of hitting the ball cleanly to any match or tournament. I can totally understand that.

    Have asked John McEnroe about it because he wrote in his book how tennis was not his favorite sport. He told me he much preferred team sports like basketball or soccer, but he wasn't nearly as good in those sports as he was in tennis so "I picked tennis because that's what I was best it."

    Another example: A friend of mine was an all American college wrester, placed 5th in the nation his junior year. He went on to coach wrestling, but has told me many times "I hate it" going on to qualify that he resented having to put so much of his life into a sport his father basically picked for him and that required so much discipline (a bit of a monastic existence: always cutting weight in season so couldn't really eat much, no partying, etc.) and that he felt he was denied other parts of his life and kind of coerced into focusing on this one single pursuit at the expense of a lot of other things, namely living his life on his terms. That said, he also likes and values learning and teaching the technique and actually mastering and executing the moves that made him so good - he was a very technique-orientated wrestler as a opposed to someone who just tried to use strength to beat you. The pure act of doing the sport, of being a wrestler, that he still values and likes, but the other stuff surrounding it: the pressure to perform when you're on scholarship, the expectations of coaches, teammates, family, the fact you really don't have your own life while you're doing it, etc. the way he explained it to me it was like he felt his life had, at some point, stopped being his own life and he was the mouse running on the wheel.

    If you ever want to read a good book on that kind of love-hate relationship with a sport check out John Ed Bradley's "It Never Rains In Tigers Stadium" about his experiences coming from a football-crazed family (his father was a football coach) playing center for LSU. It's provides a lot of insight into those feelings - at one point he concedes he really doesn't like football as much, doesn't really want to be playing it, but realizes it's too late to quit, that he is in too deep and that he will play it because he's played it so long and because it's expected of him. 

    I do agree with you though: I don't believe AA actively hates tennis. Have a hard time believing that not only based on what you say, the way he played and trained, but also the way he talked about it, his total recall of matches, etc. I think one reason why he connected with Gilbert and Cahill so well (and Reyes off court) is that he really is into that detail and minutiae. 

    As for your point that "it's a lie generated to create more intrigue..." Again have to read the entire book, but you may well be right that it could absolutely be an attempt to provoke reader response - the fact we're talking about it right now before the book is even out would suggest that provocative aim has at least piqued our interest - like a teaser.

    When I first saw that quote I thought back to Maureen Connolly's book and there's a section in it where she says her first coach, Teach Tennant, motivated Little Mo by building up a real and sheer hatred for her opponents. That she would kind of psychologically manipulate her by telling her things about the opponent (according to the book much of the stuff the coach told her was not true) and that in her early years that's what fueled her: a hatred (and if I remember right she does use that word "hate" a few times) of the opponent. And she won titles playing purely fueled by hate, but she goes on to say it was only after she split with that coach and learned to really tap into why she began playing the first place - because she really loved it - that she played her best tennis and actually won the Grand Slam. It's been years since I read Little Mo's book but I can remember her writing something like "When I learned to play from love that's when I played the best tennis I ever played." For me, it's hard to imagine doing something at a world class level as he did for 20 years if you realy truly hated it with a passion.

    Yeah, I understand he wrote that, but I just can't imagine having any kind of sustained success that way and also athletes I know who have been driven from a place of hate - hating to lose, hating the opponent, hating the media criticism, (some athletes have told me they hate the fans and the media - because they feel like they know little about the game and the pressure yet talk and act like they know it all) etc. - are really telling you they are driven by a fear and especially in a solo sport like tennis playing from fear is very tough to sustain.

    May have mentioned this before, but I remember asking Connors during his days on the senior tour "who do you like to watch play?" He looked at me like it was a dopey question and replied: "I don't watch tennis. I play tennis." Whereas with Agassi, I would bet he's ont he couch watching the US Open, watching the Austalian Open, breaking down the Fed vs. Del Potro Open final etc. I mean listen to the guy talk you don't make those kind of observatiosn about the game today - particuarly when you're not playing it - unless you watch it and you don't watch it if you really hate it.  

    Maybe he has gone through periods where he hated it for stretches, but I think the guy is smart enough to understand not only what he's gained from tennis but what tennis allows allows him to do now, the platform he's gained because of it and how he can take that position, money, fame, etc. and leverage it to achieve what he wants to whether that's his school, charity, the book, running for political office someday, etc. So I would thikn at some point he must realize that maybe his hate or resentment of tennis stems from the whole issue of being raised to do it and at some point feeling like you're consumed by it or even part of you is cannibalized by something you never even chose for yourself. But ultimately he learned to use it as a tool to build the kinds of things he is interested in and people can say he's motivated by philanthropy or the desire to give back or by ego gratification or the desire to make money or the spotlight or adulation, etc. But many of us are motivated to do things for a numberof reasons and I would say that if you think back to any intense relationship you've had - whether it is with another person or with a job or a passion or even a substance - there can be all sorts of complex and even sometimes contradictory forces at work that go into it. Maybe for some people it is as simple as loving it or hating it, but people who have done it that long - there tends to be some more complex forces at work than that.

    Again, I haven't read the entire book so this is all speculation and comparing it to others. Would like to hear your reaction after you do read it.

  •  11-04-2009, 6:32 PM 512234 in reply to 512211

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    Very well said, that's a great read,

    Just add that Agassi showed a lot of joy on the tennis court with many of his great wins. He may hate some aspects of tennis and to some degree how he got pulled into it by his father, but remember in your minds eye the joy he showed in those moments right after winning many of his grand slams. And his love for tennis kept bringing him back for more, all the way until his body gave out. If he really hated tennis he would have quit a long time ago. 

    Like the yellow and pink cycle shorts and earrings and makeup, saying 'I hate tennis' was probably just for shock value.   

    PS: Look, Boris Becker has spoken about Agassi...

    http://www.sport24.co.za/Content/Tennis/270/3e6aae7dccd94c9e9c8e7f9be135590c/03-11-2009-08-10/Agassi_has_harmed_tennis 







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  •  11-04-2009, 8:00 PM 512249 in reply to 512234

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    Interesting, RP.  So who got an advance copy and who didn't since some tennis journalists obviously have?

    I think (we'll see in the book) Agassi might have enjoyed plenty of things about being a tennis player (detail, technique, fans, attention, money, etc etc as you say) but not enjoyed playing matches.  There's been a lot of coverage in the British press about how many other sports greats in different fields have also said that - love winning but hate their sports....  On a far far far lower note, my very talented & successful daughter is on a break from tournaments because she said finally that she always hated tournaments even though she absolutely loves tennis - and if you see her practice now you'd think no teen ever loved it more.  And I know she's not a sociopath or a lier:-)

  •  11-04-2009, 8:01 PM 512251 in reply to 512249

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    Ps Becker above all people should shut up - he's got no right to say anything to anyone about bringing tennis into disrepute.  Too bad he turned out to be such an idiot (evident in many ways...) because I thought he was great when he was a teenager.
  •  11-05-2009, 12:13 AM 512271 in reply to 512251

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    How did Becker bring disrepute or disgrace to tennis? Thought he was pretty cool guy on and off the court throughout his career. He showed passion and anger on court, yelled a lot in later years. Can't think of anything that bad. You're not referring to that broom closet encounter with the woman are you? 





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  •  11-05-2009, 12:22 AM 512272 in reply to 512271

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    Disastrous personal life post divorce (not only the cupboard) constantly flaunted in front of the media; bonehead tv commentator; I think the phrase is "media whore" in terms of how he interacts with the media.  Just seemed to lose his compass completely post divorce and never got it back.  He's my least favorite of all the pros I grew up watching now. 
  •  11-05-2009, 12:23 AM 512273 in reply to 512272

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    He had all those dodgy tax issues too.  I could go on.  Playboy with no purpose in life ...
  •  11-05-2009, 2:02 AM 512278 in reply to 512273

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    I don't know about you, but most everyone has some flaws and screw ups on their resumes. It's part of being human. Becker was a great champion, not a perfect one.

    Mel DiGiacomo shared this great quote when he was giving me some anecdotes on Marcelo Rios and it sums up Becker and pretty much all champions as well: "There's a wonderful line written by Norman Mailer in 'The Bullfighter' ...The one thing that can keep the sweet verve of life alive is the knowledge that  a  man cannot be judged by what he is every day, but only at his greatest moment, for that is when he shows what he was intended to be."







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  •  11-05-2009, 2:45 AM 512280 in reply to 512278

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    Oh I agree absolutely.  That's why he shouldn't be calling Agassi out... great but imperfect in their own ways.

     Wertheim's column today noted however that while there is very little score settling in the Agassi book, there is some and he include Becker among those he described as "roadkill" in the book - so I think Becker probably has got wind of that which explains his testiness. 

  •  11-05-2009, 3:34 AM 512293 in reply to 512280

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    In fairness to Boris, Germany's tax collectors are vicious fanatics who want to make a name for themselves by bringing down a famous person. They are relentless and they do not want to hear anything that disagrees with them. They have forced most of Germany's athletes and entertainers to flee the country. Boris could have stayed in Monaco and out of their clutches but he made the mistake of returning home and once he did that they said anything he ever earned in his life belonged to them. To Germany's tax collectors Boris was like an elephant suddenly parking himself in front of a hunter armed with a telescope and a high powered shot gun. They were out for big game and they got it. 
  •  11-05-2009, 6:44 AM 512298 in reply to 512293

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    The problem with Becker's statement is the same problem with Martina's and Rafa's statements:  crystal meth is not a performance-enhancing drug. In fact, it would have hindered Agassi's ability to succeed in tennis or anything else.  This is a very dangerous and addictive recreational drug, and any concern should be for Agassi, not tennis.  Are these players just ignorant or are they trying to hurt Agassi?  Also, when will the ATP come out of the stone age and stop excessively punishing recreational drug use (e.g. Hingis) rather than trying to help the player, who could have an addiction issue.  A strong argument can be made that a player's "party habits" are none of the ATP's business, but if they are going to get involved, it should be out of concern for the player. 

     

  •  11-05-2009, 2:55 PM 512331 in reply to 512298

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    The love-hate push and pull of pro tennis is a dogfight. And Agassi was very fortunate that when he dropped below 100 in the ranking he never had to go back and play challenger after challenger.

    Talking to Spadea, he's now #289 in world and at 35 going on 36, he's going to have to come back and get in ridiculous shape (he thinks lose 18 pounds in off-season and weigh 183 to start new season), deal with the knee tendinitis he has now, sporting no coach, changing rackets, and instead of going down to Australia to start the year, he's going to have to play a challenger in Ecuador, where he says he'll have to deal with getting bad lines calls, traveling in buses with other players, who like him are digging to survive. And he doesn't know if he wants to put himself through that again. In pro tennis, it's much more than just playing the game.

    For instance, the other night against Donald Young, he walked onto the court with only three rackets and one of them had a different string in it. Spadea likes to switch to a new racket to start each set b/c he feels after a set, a racket starts to lose something. So he loses the first set closely and then wins the second, and in the third he has to switch to the racket that has Topspin string in it. He feels unprofessional, he doesn't feel the ball well on the racket, and lose 6-0.

    And you have to have a good coach to get your rackets ready, and desire, hunger. Spadea said he tracked the first three years of his career to Sampras' and Federer's and he had the same ranking rise as they had. 1000 to 300 to 70 and then 50, after the third year. Then, obviously Samp and Fed took off while Spadea just peaked at #18 a couple of times over the next 8 years. So what was it that Samp and Fed had that Spadea didn't to climb up to the top. Talent wasn't as big a factor as other "outside" parts of the game, according to Spadea.

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